Prospect Ramblings – Continued: Valuing pre-NHL top scorers
Hayden Soboleski
2016-06-19
Continuing my look at how to value top scorers from different leagues when hoping for NHL success in this Sunday Ramblings…
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Last week I took a look at the top scorers from three Canadian junior leagues over several years to see if any NHL success patterns emerged. I wont spoil the conclusions for you, but there were some very visible differences found in the case of players actually making it to the NHL or not. Based on these useful results, I thought I should do a similar investigation but on players coming from other leagues – the KHL and NCAA.
First – the KHL
This is slightly harder to do, since not all of the top scorers have the goal of playing the NHL. To make up for this, what I've done is select what I feel are the most relevant players for this study, essentially the most anticipated signees at the time based on their fantasy hockey history. I've also eliminated my delay time, since players are coming with the intention of immediately pushing for an NHL position. To compliment this, stats are shown for the year in which they joined the NHL, not their career peak. This is by no means a complete or perfect investigation, but hopefully is satisfactory in providing some useful outcomes. Here we go.
Signing Year | Player | KHL Points | NHL Points |
2015 | Artemi Panarin | 62 in 54 GP | 77 in 80 GP |
Yevgeni Medvedev | 16 in 43 GP | 13 in 45 GP | |
Nikita Soshnikov | 32 in 57 GP | 5 in 11 GP | |
Steve Moses | 57 in 60 GP | Never played | |
Sergei Plotnikov | 36 in 56 GP | 3 in 45 GP | |
Sergei Kalinin | 25 in 58 GP | 15 in 78 GP | |
2014 | Jiri Sekac | 28 in 47 GP | 24 in 69 GP |
Petri Kontiola | 37 in 53 GP | Never played | |
Evgeny Kuznetsov | 21 in 31 GP | 37 in 80GP | |
Jori Lehtera | 44 in 48 GP | 44 in 75 GP | |
Leo Komarov | 34 in 52 GP | 26 in 62 GP |
So what do we see here? For one – out of the "top" talents poached each year, a majority earned NHL time. Most players on that list played over half the season, and even if they didn't prove to be stars or key players, did have fantasy value in deep leagues. WIth that in mind, lets look at the offensive results – not a single player on that list had a better points-per-game in the NHL than they did in the KHL. Even those that are now star players. Kuznetsov has now become an all-world talent, but that first transition from the KHL was not met without a hiccup. My takeaways from this – if there's hype and KHL success, bet on the player receiving a good chunk of games played. But never assume the rate of scoring will hold up in North America, no matter how talented the player.
Next – the NCAA
This one I did the same as last week's study, since a large amount of players in the NCAA are drafted youngsters developing in a college program.
Year | Player | NCAA Points | Peak NHL Points |
2011-12 | Spencer Abbott | 61 in 38 GP | 0 in 1GP |
Jack Connolly | 58 in 39 GP | Never played | |
Austin Smith | 57 in 39 GP | Never played | |
Drew Shore | 52 in 41 GP | 13 in 43 GP | |
Chris Wagner | 51 in 38 GP | 6 in 43 GP | |
2012-13 | Ryan Walters | 52 in 39 GP | Never played |
Greg Carey | 51 in 38 GP | Never played | |
Danny Kristo | 50 in 37 GP | Never played | |
Drew Leblanc | 50 in 38 GP | 0 in 2GP | |
Johnny Gaudreau | 49 in 33 GP | 26 in 62 GP | |
2013-14 | Johnny Gaudreau | 69 in 37 GP | 78 in 79 GP |
Greg Carey | 57 in 38 GP | Never played | |
Kevin Hayes | 56 in 37 GP | 45 in 79 GP | |
Brett Gensler | 53 in 37 GP | Never played | |
Kevin Goumas | 50 in 38 GP | Never played |
Thank goodness for the 2013-14 crop or else that chart would've been really depressing (actually, it still is). An important number not shown in that chart: of the 7 players who never saw NHL action ZERO are over 6 feet tall. None. 0%. Obviously Johnny Gaudreau is on the list too and proves that size isn't everything, but it is clearly a factor. I don't need to do much explaining on this one…Does scoring lots of points in the NCAA mean you will do so in the NHL, or even get in the game? Nope. But this isn't unexpected. The NCAA typically isn't seen as a league of elite scorers and top talents – it's viewed as a league for hard working players, who perhaps weren't enough of a "sure thing" when they were 18 to pass up a college education. Players brought out of the NCAA by those who drafted them do so because they believe their years of hard work on and off the ice at a higher maturity level make them reliable, so the fact that the league's top scorers aren't the ones names we recognize shouldn't be shocking.
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I think we got some useful outcomes again this week. Top KHL signings and transfers aren't going to keep up the pace they scored at overseas, but are a good bet to at least see a decent amount of games, and thus shouldn't be shied away from in fantasy drafts. The NCAA is a different story – where I believe we showed that this league isn't valued for its scorers, and thus being a top talent here means far less than in other leagues when it comes to one's chance of cracking the NHL, let alone scoring in it. Again, no study is perfect, especially one this small, but there are lessons to be learned nonetheless, and hopefully this helps in your upcoming prospect drafts.
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As always, thank you for reading and best of luck in your summer drafts! Happy Father's Day to all celebrating, including my own, who raised me to love the best sport in the world.
Hayden Soboleski
@soboleskih